Response to Membership Tier

[mjk]

3 minutes ago, xSNAKExPLISSKENx said:

 

I agree with this as well.

it is very rewarding to secure a copy of an ultra limited release like the Fantactic 1917 for retail price. As a collector I cherish editions like that and proudly put them on my shelf forever. However I will feel awful when I miss on a limited release. Thats just the way it is. 

But I also don't want huge print runs for example I don't want to see a Blufans editions or any premium retailer release in a Walmart bargain bin or any discount store. It is just my opinion of course .

 

[deckard99]

1 hour ago, Masterblaster said:

Im sorry but i have to strongly disagree with you on the point of bigger print runs...Ive always been against it .  If you make a print run 5000+ it makes it less interesting for me as a collectors standpoint .  

This is of course my own personal opinion not necessarily that of MP 

 

Take care 

 

 

I never said anything about 5000+ boss man! 😅 I said 250 to maybe 300-325. Big difference!

[Intentcoin]

17 minutes ago, deckard99 said:

 

I never said anything about 5000+ boss man! 😅 I said 250 to maybe 300-325. Big difference!

Yea, you guys seem to think in the extreme. No one is advocating for 5000 runs or enough to fill a Walmart bin. 

 

It just makes sense to slightly increase the print runs as the hobby grows

[mjk]

2 minutes ago, Intentcoin said:

Yea, you guys seem to think in the extreme. No one is advocating for 5000 runs or enough to fill a Walmart bin. 

 

It just makes sense to slightly increase the print runs as the hobby grows

I agree 50 more or a 100 more will not cause any issues in fact it will make them more money and more customers will get their product and more brand exposure. 

[Fortis93]

4 hours ago, Intentcoin said:

You will never find a bigger supporter of higher print runs than me. Unfortunately it seems to be a somewhat unpopular opinion amongst collectors 

 

While I can understand their mentality to some degree, part of me feels like there's an element of a 'F*** you, got mine' involved.

 

Edited August 23, 2020 by Fortis93

[DodgyDave]

Obviously John and I will be on the side of very limited print runs. It makes them more desirable. 
If 1917 had been a 1k print run nobody would have been interested in the hype, and they would not have made as much effort to join the GB. 
It is these very low print runs that keeps this collecting business going. It’s what drags you to forums like this. Because you know the best place to increase your chances is in a forum/GB. 

If we all could just order anything from BB or Zavvi. etc, there would not be the buzz that is around collecting highly desirable premium steelbooks. 
They would become less desirable.
Once they become less desirable/sought after, people would stop collecting them. 

 

On a more technical note...

It is not certain that this is just 250. It may be 300. 
But those 50 extra copies would make little difference to the desirability of this release. Also it doesn’t alter the allocations much. Remember there are 4-5 markets for this release. Local HK, China/Blufans collectors, plus 3 forums.
Demand on these forums is growing as more collectors/dealers want in on these desirable/valuable releases.
Just look at how many jumped to join Platinum on here. Was it because they just wanted to show their support for MP, or because they wanted to get in a better position for ultra limited GBs like this ?

 

[Parzival]

1 hour ago, DodgyDave said:

Just look at how many jumped to join Platinum on here. Was it because they just wanted to show their support for MP, or because they wanted to get in a better position for ultra limited GBs like this ?

 

@DodgyDave why does it have to be EITHER... / OR

It's possible members have joined for both purposes ... i.e (I) supporting MP and (ii) being able to buy premium editions (and save being ripped off by extortionate ebay prices) 😁

[Scary Hair]

6 minutes ago, Parzival said:

@DodgyDave why does it have to be EITHER... / OR

It's possible members have joined for both purposes ... i.e (I) supporting MP and (ii) being able to buy premium editions (and save being ripped off by extortionate ebay prices) 😁

 

Honey DDave has NO grey area .   

 

Yes 

 

No 

 

thats it end of underlined in bold .

 

WHY I LOVE him 

[Parzival]

Haha... As do we all 🥰

 

Legend! 

 

 

[Fortis93]

5 minutes ago, Scary Hair said:

Honey DDave has NO grey area .   

 

Yes 

 

No 

 

thats it end of underlined in bold .

 

Sounds a bit dodgy to me. 

[Carl]

Just now, Fortis93 said:

 

Sounds a bit dodgy to me. 

 

[RAK]

I guess I don’t understand why you would want to increase the amount of a Steelbook that you can get everywhere. I get it it’s wrapped in a pretty packaging. But I would rather buy a WEA Exclusive, then be pressed because a WWA print run is low. Also don’t understand why we keep beating the dead horse, I mean it’s already dead. Everyone has the right to there opinion, but at the end of the day it’s up to the distributor how many get released not MP.


 

It doesn’t make sense. It’s a WWA Steelbook, and that is the reason the print run is low. Why would they make more with the potential of getting stuck with the extras. 

 

[Basil]

1 hour ago, RAK said:

 

It doesn’t make sense. It’s a WWA Steelbook, and that is the reason the print run is low. Why would they make more with the potential of getting stuck with the extras. 

 

 

it could even be these are left overs from a much bigger run that fantatics/blufans have picked up from someone else, hence why is 300 odd

and then added there bits to make it there release, its not uncommon. when talking about wwa.

so if they are picking up the change from someone else maybe its all they can get.

 

and as ann has said @DodgyDave

dave is yes or no, he is thee most straight talking bloke on here and i admire that.

and also no horse sh1t neither says it like it is, that I can really work with.

he cracks me up half the time, wicked sense of humour  

brillant 

 

basil 

[RAK]

7 minutes ago, Basil said:

 

it could even be these are left overs from a much bigger run that fantatics/blufans have picked up from someone else, hence why is 300 odd

and then added there bits to make it there release, its not uncommon. when talking about wwa.

so if they are picking up the change from someone else maybe its all they can get.

 

and as ann has said @DodgyDave

dave is yes or no, he is thee most straight talking bloke on here and i admire that.

and also no horse sh1t neither says it like it is, that I can really work with.

he cracks me up half the time, wicked sense of humour  

brillant 

 

basil 

Totally agree, they probably follow FA practices. 

“Oh we have Steelbooks leftover. We’ll just put a ribbon on it, and everyone will want it.”

Edited August 23, 2020 by RAK

[Veum]

4 hours ago, DodgyDave said:

Obviously John and I will be on the side of very limited print runs. It makes them more desirable. 
If 1917 had been a 1k print run nobody would have been interested in the hype, and they would not have made as much effort to join the GB. 
It is these very low print runs that keeps this collecting business going. It’s what drags you to forums like this. Because you know the best place to increase your chances is in a forum/GB. 

If we all could just order anything from BB or Zavvi. etc, there would not be the buzz that is around collecting highly desirable premium steelbooks. 
They would become less desirable.
Once they become less desirable/sought after, people would stop collecting them. 

 

On a more technical note...

It is not certain that this is just 250. It may be 300. 
But those 50 extra copies would make little difference to the desirability of this release. Also it doesn’t alter the allocations much. Remember there are 4-5 markets for this release. Local HK, China/Blufans collectors, plus 3 forums.
Demand on these forums is growing as more collectors/dealers want in on these desirable/valuable releases.
Just look at how many jumped to join Platinum on here. Was it because they just wanted to show their support for MP, or because they wanted to get in a better position for ultra limited GBs like this ?

 

 

Both👍

 

2 hours ago, RAK said:

I guess I don’t understand why you would want to increase the amount of a Steelbook that you can get everywhere. I get it it’s wrapped in a pretty packaging. But I would rather buy a WEA Exclusive, then be pressed because a WWA print run is low. Also don’t understand why we keep beating the dead horse, I mean it’s already dead. Everyone has the right to there opinion, but at the end of the day it’s up to the distributor how many get released not MP.


 

It doesn’t make sense. It’s a WWA Steelbook, and that is the reason the print run is low. Why would they make more with the potential of getting stuck with the extras. 

 

 

Definitely love me some WEA over WWA, yeah🤙

[Scary Hair]

7 hours ago, RAK said:

I guess I don’t understand why you would want to increase the amount of a Steelbook that you can get everywhere. I get it it’s wrapped in a pretty packaging. But I would rather buy a WEA Exclusive, then be pressed because a WWA print run is low. Also don’t understand why we keep beating the dead horse, I mean it’s already dead. Everyone has the right to there opinion, but at the end of the day it’s up to the distributor how many get released not MP.


 

It doesn’t make sense. It’s a WWA Steelbook, and that is the reason the print run is low. Why would they make more with the potential of getting stuck with the extras. 

 

 

It makes PERFECT marketing sense as not having to pay for exclusive art but putting a full on art worked slip and outer box Each retailer manipulating what artwork they can use ,

 

Add that to making only a few hundred leads to it being 

 

NOW the fact WE have the membership evens out as we ALL collect for different reasons .

 

One thing I can liken it to is Marmite . 

 

1 members dream edition is another member's nightmare  .

 

The more the choice the more we build our dream collection .

 

BY Supporting the Membership tier WE support MP  THE PLACE TO BE FOR ALL THE BEST GB's

 

[tr0llhatt]

17 hours ago, mjk said:

But I also don't want huge print runs for example I don't want to see a Blufans editions or any premium retailer release in a Walmart bargain bin or any discount store. It is just my opinion of course .

 

The difference between a print run of 250 (as the Blufans 1917) and finding it in the bargain bin in Walmart is enormous though. A print run of 250 for a commercially available('worldwide') release is insane to be honest even if the market for premium retail releases aren't that big.
Such low numbers makes much more sense to me if they're giveaways/gifts for something or actually exclusive releases made to build hype (see Ferrari), not when sold to everyone - not at this price point anyway.

Always an even trade.

[Masterblaster]

Well in the end the Distributor decides how many to supply each retailer with  and then it goes from there what they do with them.. 

 

If you only get 250 you cant make 500 unless you want Mini Steelbooks LOL 

 

Take care

John

 

[deckard99]

31 minutes ago, Masterblaster said:

Well in the end the Distributor decides how many to supply each retailer with  and then it goes from there what they do with them.. 

 

If you only get 250 you cant make 500 unless you want Mini Steelbooks LOL 

 

Take care

John

 

 

I think you could be on to something here!

[xSNAKExPLISSKENx]

47 minutes ago, deckard99 said:

 

I think you could be on to something here!

 

O God mini steel premiums

[SilentasKnight]

The thing that gets me is I don't think they could make a profit. How do make money only selling 250 of something? It's not like they go down to the local copy center and say "run me off 1000 of these collector cards". There has got to be some serious tooling and investment in getting these produced. I've never made premium Steelbooks. If I did I bet I would say $80 for an edition is a bargain!

[SteelWild]

@Masterblaster Platinum Membership for me please 🙂

Thanks To the staff. 

 

[Benoit46]

il y a 2 minutes, SteelWild a dit :

@Masterblaster Platinum Membership for me please 🙂

Thanks To the staff. 

 

 

Il te faudra attendre les inscriptions 2021 

Tout est attribué pour l'année 2020/2021

[SteelWild]

il y a 20 minutes, Benoit46 a dit :

 

Il te faudra attendre les inscriptions 2021 

Tout est attribué pour l'année 2020/2021

 

Ha mince...j'étais motivé là  😂 

[AndroiDad75]

Is there a standard time frame when memberships open up for application?