Response to Membership Tier

[Pbsw23]

11 minutes ago, swish said:

since there are more members that join mp there will be more tiere membership. if that increase only gold or platinum too i can't say. The membership are not yearly almost 6 month, because of covid it was extended to 8 but i think it may go back to 6 month cyrcle. The staff will soon inform us about all that

It used to be annual. The 6/8 month cycle is a recent thing. I’ve been here since the beginning and seen a lot of changes. Mostly for the good, but some have been painful IMO. I prefer an annual membership, but it’s not my decision.
 

We used to have silver but those have been ditched, and Platinum & Gold allocations have increased year on year. I suspect that 2022 will be no different in that regard. We shall see. 

 

All I would say to anyone who wants a membership, is consider your collection. There is far too much “I want platinum, I want diamond, I want to rule” nonsense that takes place every year. If you’re not buying OC after OC and prefer singles, then consider that some one else may want, and would get better use of a platinum membership than yourself.

 

I have been a Gold member from the start and only buy singles. I’ve never missed out on a Blufans for example yet. I will of course be renewing my gold and not bowing to the “elite” nonsense that goes on in here at times. We are all collectors, and we all have different views on what’s Hot and what’s not. 
 

Hope you all get what you want, but as always there will be those who will miss out. There’s only so much John & the team can do.

[Basil]

7 minutes ago, 5t33lb0y said:

I wonder if yearly membership is rising in numbers or do they keep it at same number.

If it's same number then it's no wonder getting in is tough and there are always same ppl who have priority in GB.

Would be fair if number grows proportionaly with site number of users...

right what has happened last few years we have the normal numbers of tier but john has always so far kept a new amount of all tiers new memberships for new members only.

so in other words we all go thru the usual tier process with numbers the same, then after that when open to new members you get any memberships that did not renew plus then the new memberships on top so all regular members get a fair crack of the whip.

it is a set number each year but year on year is ever growing.

the amount of time changes on each sitting rather than the first 12 monthly and if john gets tied up he has extended for free the periods which is good of him 👍

 

plat aug 2019

12 months $100

 

plat aug 2020

6 months $60 141 members

 

plat may 2021

8 months $96 171 members

 

basil 👍

[muchasgracias1971]

vor 48 Minuten schrieb Basil:

right what has happened last few years we have the normal numbers of tier but john has always so far kept a new amount of all tiers new memberships for new members only.

so in other words we all go thru the usual tier process with numbers the same, then after that when open to new members you get any memberships that did not renew plus then the new memberships on top so all regular members get a fair crack of the whip.

it is a set number each year but year on year is ever growing.

the amount of time changes on each sitting rather than the first 12 monthly and if john gets tied up he has extended for free the periods which is good of him 👍

 

plat aug 2019

12 months $100

 

plat aug 2020

6 months $60 141 members

 

plat may 2021

8 months $96 171 members

 

basil 👍

Whats on 2022?

 

[Basil]

2 minutes ago, muchasgracias1971 said:

Whats on 2022?

 

 

 i dont know 2022 is still to determined by admin  

maybe @deckard99 or @ksosk can give some hints as to whats happening and when?

 

basil 

[R1s1ngs0n]

il y a une heure, Pbsw23 a dit :

It used to be annual. The 6/8 month cycle is a recent thing. I’ve been here since the beginning and seen a lot of changes. Mostly for the good, but some have been painful IMO. I prefer an annual membership, but it’s not my decision.
 

We used to have silver but those have been ditched, and Platinum & Gold allocations have increased year on year. I suspect that 2022 will be no different in that regard. We shall see. 

 

All I would say to anyone who wants a membership, is consider your collection. There is far too much “I want platinum, I want diamond, I want to rule” nonsense that takes place every year. If you’re not buying OC after OC and prefer singles, then consider that some one else may want, and would get better use of a platinum membership than yourself.

 

I have been a Gold member from the start and only buy singles. I’ve never missed out on a Blufans for example yet. I will of course be renewing my gold and not bowing to the “elite” nonsense that goes on in here at times. We are all collectors, and we all have different views on what’s Hot and what’s not. 
 

Hope you all get what you want, but as always there will be those who will miss out. There’s only so much John & the team can do.

Agree with you on everything word for word 👍

 

And to address what @Whodini posted earlier regarding how tiered membership allocation should prioritize those who participate in many GBs - I would much rather have a Platinum given to someone who rarely participates in GBs but when he does, it matters since these highly coveted editions are for his collection, rather than someone who uses MP to get every release, only to sell them later on eBay for a huge profit. This isn't to say all members who participate in many GBs follow this practice... but you get the picture.

 

It's the same old story, unfortunately there will always be people who will end up disappointed no matter what course of action is taken. 

Just remember there are far worse things in life than missing out on a GB or Platinum membership.

[SquidGame]

I want a buy it Platinum or Gold

[deckard99]

I appreciate all the comments and suggestions being made. There are a lot of considerations to balance and as @R1s1ngs0n said we surely won't be able to make everyone happy, but please know that we will try our best. The team is discussing and more info will come later this month. - Ken

[5t33lb0y]

There can never be universal solution that much is known to everyone.

[damships]

I just started here three days ago, but after learning how all of this all works, I can definitely see how it can be tough to make everyone happy. But everyone in admin seems to be doing a great job thus far with how awesome this community is! I’ll just patiently wait for more info and just go from there.
 

But as @swishstated, I do think it would be beneficial opening it on a weekend. 

[chingie123]

vor 10 Minuten schrieb waxenol:

Maybe consider capping how many editions can be bought in a single GB... I've seen members buy 6 or more editions at once - clearly 5 of these are headed for that auction site! I have no issue with capitalism, as I've sold an item from time to time - but buying 3, 4, 5 or 6 clearly demonstrates profiteering at possibly others' expense. Keeping that to a mimum would guarantee other members editions in some GB's, irregardless of tier.

Just my .02

1 or 2 its ok, but 4, 5 or 6 are to much, thats not a collector, thats a Business. I think if its so, thats not fair. Sorry, thats my opinion

[LeGonze]

18 minutes ago, waxenol said:

Maybe consider capping how many editions can be bought in a single GB... I've seen members buy 6 or more editions at once - clearly 5 of these are headed for that auction site! I have no issue with capitalism, as I've sold an item from time to time - but buying 3, 4, 5 or 6 clearly demonstrates profiteering at possibly others' expense. Keeping that to a mimum would guarantee other members editions in some GB's, irregardless of tier.

Just my .02

We never service multiple copies if we can’t service the mayority of members in the GB.

 

In some cases like Blufans, they even ask member to not signup in multiple sites or they would not service you ever again. This happened with Harry Potter OAB.

Edited January 9, 2022 by LeGonze

[chingie123]

vor 51 Minuten schrieb 5t33lb0y:

There can never be universal solution that much is known to everyone.

Thats write, never can win everyone.

Not nice but so is this World.

[5t33lb0y]

17 minutes ago, chingie123 said:

1 or 2 its ok, but 4, 5 or 6 are to much, thats not a collector, thats a Business. I think if its so, thats not fair. Sorry, thats my opinion

Agree. But you have to take into account that this isn't only forum with GB to MantaLAB/HDZ/Blufans etc... They do that where they can and simply put extortion prices then. 

They avoid customs in most cases and get away with like 300-500% profit. Not to mention they profit on shipping too.

It's sad reality.

Edited January 9, 2022 by 5t33lb0y

[R1s1ngs0n]

Il y a 5 heures, damships a dit :

But as @swishstated, I do think it would be beneficial opening it on a weekend. 

I work on weekends so that's a no go.

[chingie123]

vor 6 Minuten schrieb 5t33lb0y:

Agree. But you have to take into account that this isn't only forum with GB to MantaLAB/HDZ/Blufans etc... They do that where they can and simply put extortion prices then. 

They avoid customs in most cases and get away with like 300-500% profit. Not to mention they profit on shipping too.

It's sad reality.

Unfortunately there is no right or wrong, but one thing is always right: whoever first come first serve.

This is the way.

[Pbsw23]

15 minutes ago, chingie123 said:

This is the way.

[Squeegie McGee]

29 minutes ago, Pbsw23 said:

 

[Squeegie McGee]

I'll echo everyone else... 2 copies minimum is only fair. I know some collectors like to keep one sealed and the other open. As for the traditional tiered renewal process, it's perfectly fine. If an enforcement is needed, maybe this cycle, there should be a minimum GB participation for tiered members? Like 5 GB mininum?  Not every GB is a homerun to some.. hell, I've passed on a couple I wasn't bought on. Just my two cents.

[Basil]

56 minutes ago, R1s1ngs0n said:

I work on weekends so that's a no go.

eli at work  

 

basil  

[deckard99]

1 hour ago, chingie123 said:

1 or 2 its ok, but 4, 5 or 6 are to much, thats not a collector, thats a Business. I think if its so, thats not fair. Sorry, thats my opinion

 

8 minutes ago, Squeegie McGee said:

I'll echo everyone else... 2 copies minimum is only fair. I know some collectors like to keep one sealed and the other open. As for the traditional tiered renewal process, it's perfectly fine. If an enforcement is needed, maybe this cycle, there should be a minimum GB participation for tiered members? Like 5 GB mininum?  Not every GB is a homerun to some.. hell, I've passed on a couple I wasn't bought on. Just my two cents.

 

Nobody is getting 5x or 6x of anything, at least not on MP. I can't remember the last time I saw a request that high. If we have a hot title with many requests we cut down to 1x per member as needed. We can't police other forums.

 

On the other hand, if we have a less popular GB where we have don't have enough requests to fill our allocation, why wouldn't we allow multiples and try to support the retailer as much as we can?

[R1s1ngs0n]

Il y a 3 heures, Basil a dit :

eli at work  

 

basil  

[Squeegie McGee]

14 minutes ago, deckard99 said:

 

 

Nobody is getting 5x or 6x of anything, at least not on MP. I can't remember the last time I saw a request that high. If we have a hot title with many requests we cut down to 1x per member as needed. We can't police other forums.

 

On the other hand, if we have a less popular GB where we have don't have enough requests to fill our allocation, why wouldn't we allow multiples and try to support the retailer as much as we can?

Fair point, there are exceptions to the rule which I can understand. In all, you guys always do a phenomenal job organizing these!

[LeGonze]

53 minutes ago, deckard99 said:

On the other hand, if we have a less popular GB where we have don't have enough requests to fill our allocation, why wouldn't we allow multiples and try to support the retailer as much as we can?

Absolutely… IF allocation allows, members can get all copies they want. Again, IF allocation amount allows. 😉😉

[ShadowWarrior]

I'm just ready for more reactions

[LeGonze]

6 minutes ago, ShadowWarrior said:

I'm just ready for more reactions

You won’t get them if you don’t use the OOR enough while Reg Member… Right brother @Fortis93??… 😎😎