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1 hour ago, Sir-Godric said:

Warum nicht.

Ich finde nicht das es was mit Gender zu tun hat.

Nur weil es immer so gewesen ist das die Rolle ein Mann gespielt hat.

Es ist doch nur alles Kopfsache und weil es halt immer so gewesen ist und es jetzt schrecklich wäre wenn eine Frau die Rolle von James übernehmen würde.

Im Gegenzug was wäre wenn die Rolle immer schon eine Frau gespielt hätte und jetzt plötzlich ein Mann die Rolle übernehmen würde.

Wenn derjenige den Part gut spielt warum nicht.

Egal ob Mann oder Frau...generell muss das Gesamtpaket vom Film stimmen.

Alles andere ist doch völlig unwichtig.

 

Ich würde jedem Menschen(Schauspieler) die Chance geben eine Rolle zu übernehmen.

Was dabei rauskommt ist dann was anderes.

Aber die Chancen stehen 50/50 das es auch ein großer Erfolg werden kann.

You never know.

 

Ich respektiere diese Perspektive, aber meine liegt weit, weit entfernt davon.

Es gibt für mich Helden genauso wie Heldinnen - und beide haben Characktereigenschaften, die sich für mich nicht einfach wegdenken lassen - so nunmal auch das Geschlecht.

Ich möchte einen James Bond dabei genauso konsequent als männliche, wie beispielsweise eine Harley Quinn als weibliche Person sehen.

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@Sir-Godric I think it’s cool that you’re open to any interpretation of the character. On one hand you’re correct in saying that it doesn’t matter who they cast male or female because if the film is made poorly overall most viewers isn’t going to be happy regardless.

 

I’m also in agreement with the notion that all characters should be allowed some room for interpretation, but if you change to much about them than they’re no longer that character anymore. I believe James Bond is one of those characters. 
 

If the producers announced tomorrow that a woman was playing James Bond I would still watch the movie because it could be entertaining, but I would also think casting a woman was the wrong decision even if I did like the film & like the interpretation. 
 

There is a limit to changing characters & creators should always be careful to not go to far, but as a viewer I’m willing to give anything at least one watch. You never know it could be great, I would doubt it, but it could be. Since you brought it up do you have a female actor in mind 🤔😅

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9 hours ago, hal56 said:

Oh ja, stimmt. Auch eine sehr gute Option.👍

Cavill???

Buddy, you gotta be kidding me 😲

One of the most bland actors in existence.

No swagger, no charisma whatsoever.

Hell, I think I’ll even take Pattinson rather than him 😅

I still regret that Clive Owen was not cast in the role after Brosnan quit as he would have made a fantastic Bond.

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vor 2 Minuten schrieb Hollywood E Rock:

@Sir-Godric I think it’s cool that you’re open to any interpretation of the character. On one hand you’re correct in saying that it doesn’t matter who they cast male or female because if the film is made poorly overall most viewers isn’t going to be happy regardless.

 

I’m also in agreement with the notion that all characters should be allowed some room for interpretation, but if you change to much about them than they’re no longer that character anymore. I believe James Bond is one of those characters. 
 

If the producers announced tomorrow that a woman was playing James Bond I would still watch the movie because it could be entertaining, but I would also think casting a woman was the wrong decision even if I did like the film & like the interpretation. 
 

There is a limit to changing characters & creators should always be careful to not go to far, but as a viewer I’m willing to give anything at least one watch. You never know it could be great, I would doubt it, but it could be. Since you brought it up do you have a female actor in mind 🤔😅

Thats exactly what i mean.

You should give changes a chance one watch.

I don't have any problems if James Bond will be a man for always and forever.

 

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7 minutes ago, Cornbuster said:

 

I respect that perspective, but mine is far, far from it.

For me there are heroes as well as heroines - and both have character traits that I cannot simply imagine without - as well as gender.

I would like to see a James Bond as consistently as a male as, for example, a Harley Quinn as a female person.


It could work! Just think a female spy going around seducing Bond girls to get the bad guy.

 

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3 minutes ago, R1s1ngs0n said:


Cavil ???

Buddy, you gotta be kidding me 😲

One of the most bland actors in existence.

No swagger, no charisma whatsoever.

Hell, I think I'll even take Pattinson rather than him 😅

 

 

🤣🤣

 

3 minutes ago, R1s1ngs0n said:


I still regret that Clive Owen was not cast in the role after Brosnan quit as he would have made a fantastic Bond.

 


I don’t know what happened with Clive, there was a point when it seemed like he was going to be the next superstar. I also was hoping he would have been casted. Very good actor

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vor 3 Minuten schrieb R1s1ngs0n:

Cavil???

Buddy, you gotta be kidding me 😲

One of the most bland actors in existence.

No swagger, no charisma whatsoever.

Hell, I think I’ll even take Pattinson rather than him 😅

I still regret that Clive Owen was not cast in the role after Brosnan quit as he would have made a fantastic Bond.

Clive Owen would have been great, yes.

I think Cavil might rise to the occasion.

The choice for Craig was also not applauded until they saw the movie.

What do you think of Cumberbatch who was also discussed today?

And if not as Bond, he would be a great villain, wouldnt he?

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10 minutes ago, hal56 said:

Clive Owen would have been great, yes.

I think Cavil might rise to the occasion.

The choice for Craig was also not applauded until they saw the movie.

What do you think of Cumberbatch who was also discussed today?

And if not as Bond, he would be a great villain, wouldnt he?

Cumberbatch as Bond… yes, why not?

As a villain? Even better.

Last truly great Bond villain in my opinion was Robert Davi as Franz Sanchez in Licence To Kill. Ruthless, charming and very well written.

But no matter how good the actor cast as a Bond villain is, if the character is poorly written or not sufficiently developed, the movie as a whole will suffer.

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6 minutes ago, Veum said:

 

Can we have…

 

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You know I had a suggestion once, so I’ll throw it out there again for those of us that would enjoy it 🤔

 

we could all pick a “BOND” film and watch it at the same time (say 6PM German time???) & have fun posting about said film…

 

James Bond GIF

 

moone boy good idea GIF by HULU

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