StevenWest

Think Manta better do a premium Beavis & Butthead release for you guys to go splurge on!

Dang, I do love this movie so! And I really love ALL the KIMCHI covers and would be the one 1 Click I'd be proud to own. BUT - is incredibly expensive now second hand. I do have the Kimchi version with Scarlett on the front which I adore. But seeing how Manta's may look - I may have to splurge on it as well.

Was there something I saw a while back about a release for Artificial Intelligence (A.I.)? Was that going to happen - did happen - or got cancelled?

Dang! Was hoping it was going to be this Coma....

I've been eyeing this EVERYTHING player by Sony that apparently can handle all formats and grades. But it's around the $200.00 still. And my cash flow has been on the TIGHT side lately. But one of these days I may take the plunge. I have a All Region Phillips DVD player which isn't bad in my bedroom, and a handy portable UDME(?) All Region DVD player which I can truck around with, and also hooks up and plays easily on my larger living room TV. Currently have a Sony BD player which I really like in the living room, and wish there was a way to hack it for Region Fee. But have already gotten WCL's 4k version of 2001: A Space Odyssey still sitting in it's box. So I'm gonna have to UPGRADE one of these days, whether I like it or not.

I think what's getting me now with DVD's vs. Blu-Rays is the cost discrepancies between the two. I believe it's Kino/Lorber that have some of their BD's priced LESS than the DVD versions. Which to me makes sense if BD is to be the dominate format for the next decade or two. Yet (and thankfully) Criterion is still keeping their DVD prices markedly lower than BD versions. Which to me is still ironic, in that some of their BD title's is LESS than what one gets with DVD. Less disc's, smaller case, booklet, etc. Really cheesed with Arrow releasing, as the first title I got from them was their version of Slaughter House Five. Nice extras over the DVD, but nothing really stunning. Movie transfer didn't wow me any, and packaging was kinda wan. Had there been a DVD version I opted for, I may have thought it better for the price - as long as it was cheaper ala Criterion and not Kino/Lorber.

I used to be the editor for monthly, semi and yearly CD-ROM's back in the 90's. Dealing with replicating plants like AmericDisc, CinRam, and Sony. At first, the costs between data vs. music were pretty wide. And totally understood that 5000 stuffy business CD-ROM's was not going to take precedent over 5 million Nirvana or Bruce Springsteen CD's. But these plants were good! 99% quality, on time, and quickly fixed mistakes. And again, I was giving them about 25 titles monthly to issue, from 500 to 5000 copies each. How they managed me, AOL, Bruce Springsteen, and Bob's Band Demo Disc's are beyond me?

Today obviously, disc demand for movies and music is at a all time low. So I'm surprised replicating plants aren't offering great discounts for DVD and Blu-Ray replication to keep business pumping. And/or publishers aren't taking advantage of or demanding more efficient price breaks for both formats combined. 50,000 BD's at say $10,000. Or 50,000 BD's and 5000 DVD's @ say $11,500. Even if the DVD's don't move as quickly, they still knock the BD price down significantly. Keeps people working, profits up, and customers happy. I'm sure there'd be a stink if music publishers today said the majority of there releases will only be 80g Vinyl and digital MP3 now, and forgo CD versions altogether. And maybe some have already? Again, not to sound like I'm 'pro CD' - but it still can offer some leverage in this day of age business wise I feel. And to me, Criterion is the only one still taking advantage of it in way of DVD + BD. Premium boutique lines wouldn't benefit any, which I totally understand. And possibly little indies like MVD Rewind wouldn't either? Then again, if MVD as a whole wanted to save money - dual issues for them and/or Rewind could bring costs down across the board and increase sales 15% or more?

Arrow, Shout, and others seem to missing the boat on this. And keeping the material stock low, prices high, and encouraging streaming to really CUT costs. Maybe I'm just too OLD SCHOOL and prehistoric in my business thinking. But I only see 'profitable business' now, as opposed to 'beneficial business'. And yes, beneficial isn't always profitable in the short term. But if price breaks are had, more selection offered, more sales and discounts could be had for BD fans, DVD fans, and possibly encourage 4k enthusiasm within the myriad? 

Or maybe replicating plants just can't handle that anymore, and the hired labor and equipment servicing defeats the varied material cost? Not to sound like Mandrake in Dr. Strangelove but "Hmmm, yes. Putting it that way sir, there definitely seems to be something wrong somewhere I would say...."

Wow! Now that's HIGH TECH! But I get what you're saying - a bit anyways. I was recently dismayed at MVD Rewinds release of The Point: Ultimate Collectors Edition on BD. Lot's of new extras added about Harry Nilsson and the making of, which is great. But the movie itself - its like a rushed dupe from a 3rd strike print! Nice in one way to relive that 'old school' feel, and even in some of the newer interviews they do these sloppy 70's tape edits. But again, $30 for a Blu-Ray - and the previous DVD I had looked WAY better. So not to slight MVD Rewind, as they are definitely preserving and expanding the history of lesser known but important films. But is questionable if they didn't bother brushing up the copy they had acquired out of cost issues, OR they crammed it through a bunch of Final Cut plug in's to give it this aged and retro feel? I don't mind Tarantino mucking with his movies to give it that 'grindhouse feel'. But to take liberty with some of these old gem's in this modern age is really becoming dubious at best. Clarity, crispness, color restoration, artifact removal - okay. Director liberty to darken, brighten, extend or edit work on new formats - maybe? But to take something onto a new format and not be bothered with restoration and/or make it look it's age or older for poops and giggles? Fine for someone on YouTube, but in the supposed world of expectations of BD and/or 4k quality - are we really getting the 'full accurate picture' for our money's worth? And some might say "For a cheesy old movie like The Point, who cares?" But what in 10 years there's a gunked up retro release of Star Wars on 8k? Would there be outcry? Should there be outcry? Or would we be content going back to overpriced VHS copies on Ebay to better appreciate and/or compare the high tech advances 8k A.I. aging filters has come? Just seems like 1 step forward, and 2 steps back lately. And if no one says much, or demands better....?

Man, that just would be so awesome to have right beside my big Snowpiercer box in the display case.

Would be awesome if Plain Archive could come out with a English version. All those disc's though with the Joker's version. What are they all, do we know? 4k, BD, DVD, and extras? My cheapo DVD just came with a Q&A with Bong and a couple of trailers.

Thanks Deckard. Such a shame, as the set does look so nice. Hard to believe they can't have ANY English on it whatsoever.

So I'm a little confused now, as I just picked up the DVD cheaply recently. It's audio tracks are Korean and French dub, and only English subtitles. I think these Joker folks merely said 'French Only' - so does that mean the audio track, and no subtitles at all? Or still with Korean, French audio and the English subtitles? And/or the delay is adding subtitles now?

They're a British publisher distributed through Lime Wood Media, and this is their current list of Limited Editions;

https://www.powerhousefilms.co.uk/collections/limited-editions

I like these folks much better than Arrow, as their booklets and features are really enlightening. BUT not all of their

releases are Region Free, and is hard to tell the Standard from the LE. Other than front cover will be a bit shorter for

the regular BR release. I was lucky enough to get The China Syndrome and Eyes Of Laura Mars Limited Editions, but

kinda got duped on getting Christine and Hardcore versions. And like all us collectors, 2nd best really just isn't good

enough!

I'm in love with some of these PH Indicator limited edition releases. But I'm getting duped by many sellers claiming LE (Limited Ed.) where they are in fact STANDARD releases now.

Is there any good site or seller that has the 'real deal' and can be trusted?

Too bad PA isn't doing their own release. Does CJ Ent. do premium things? Or is that just to be the standard DVD/BD release?

Good lord mwatkins, that's just SICK!!! And I mean that in the best and worst way possible! LOL The amount of time it takes me to hunt down particular titles I'm after can take a good part of a day or more. How much time do you spend amassing all that? I got a few sites that notify me of OOP titles and collectables being sold 2nd hand. But most of the time I'm on the hunt everywhere. All those little extras you have with your sets, that must've been brutal to track down?

Excellent Leelee17!!! 🤣 Seeing your pic, have you gotten the HAL9000 model by Moebius? Great video on YouTube on how to give it sound and all.

The Jokers Shop french release looks amazing, but is only Region B and no English subtitles. And a bit dismayed at KIMCHI's release of Irreversible, having English subtitles for the movie, but only Korean for the extra features that are all spoken in French. So hopefully PA or whomever gives full translations across the board for Parasite. I think if one's going to produce 'Region Free' BD's, as many languages and translations should be taken into account.

Looks like such a beautiful set too! But i haven't even seen the movie yet. So I'll have to go "domestic DVD" first I guess, and see if I can afford this one later for my Bong Joon Ho shrine.

Maybe that's it, as my TV's only 26" - which suits me fine still. And yes, some DVD's can be real crap too. Some publishers just rip a VHS onto DVD pretty with no tweaks or anything. But for say Criterion, there can't be that much difference between their DVD and BD's of the same title can there? Unless maybe if one's going with a big huge TV? The only Blu-Ray that's REALLY impressed me so far in transfer and upgrade is Vinegar Syndromes release of Lust In The Dust. The DVD I had was pretty crap, and so glad VS gave Paul Bartel the honor he deserves. And BAM! That movie just POPS now for me on BD. The other one that gets me is that many BD Only releases now with an extras disc - the extras are usually on DVD format still. And no consideration given to deleted footage, trailers, behind the scenes stuff. I'm not into Star Wars and all these CGI epics today. But for die hard fans I'm surprised they don't demand the same quality given to the extras as given to the movie? Maybe some of the footage could work if cleaned up a bit? Or be more evident why a scene or effect was chucked with the restoration added? Just seems "Six of one, half dozen of the other" to me. Charge as much as possible for 6, and let the half dozen go for cheap? And I agree that 3D is more intriguing to me than this 4k stuff. I'd be more willing to check out good ol' Star Wars in 3D if Lucas and ILM were behind it than this current Disney 4k cookie cutter crap. Studios and publishers I just don't get these days?

Recently caught the trailer to the movie Border, and it looks intriguing. Going on Amazon, there's only a BD version of it and of course streaming. I'm still of the ilk if something looks good, whether new or old, I'll pick up the DVD to check it out. If it's okay, I keep the DVD and add it to my collection. If it sucks, I take it to the 2nd store and get some money from it for something else. If it's awesome, and the BD or Premium offers a lot more in the way of quality and extras, I'll sell off the DVD and go BIG! But I really hate the fact that many companies now don't bother with DVD at all. And for what I can see, Blu-Rays are just a gouge to jack up prices over 100% with maybe a 10% improvement. I'm cheesed at Arrow for their release of Slaughterhouse Five, as the BD hardly looks any better than my DVD! I appreciate the extras added onto the BD, as my DVD was sadly lacking. But $41.44CDN...? All could've been put on a DVD still for less than half that price, and I'd be happy. And with IMDB and YouTube, I probably could get all the extras and more insight for FREE. Hearing so much praise for Arrow, I thought I'd take the plunge finally. But am seriously NOT impressed! Had they done a DVD version alongside, they might've won me over. High kudos to Criterion for keeping up both versions. I maybe a pain in the butt for them, but their DVD's suit me fine! Well packaged, affordable, and concise with my collection. What's even more hilarious is many of these BD only issuers like Shout! and such are actually issuing VINYL RECORD soundtracks to go alongside their BD releases! That to me is like ordering Beluga Caviar with white bread to put it on! Nothing against caviar or white bread - but whens the last time anyone ever had a caviar sandwich? How did it get like this? DVD's are STILL good! Be they on a 20 year old working player bought at a thrift store for $6, or on a new Sony PS5 PlayStation. One can still enjoy a movie with them. Maybe not the best picture quality. Maybe farty as to which side Full Screen and Wide Screen are on, and maybe packed with trailers and CD-ROM functions. But they are still more tangible in artwork, space for extras in case, spine recognition, and affordable cost to manufacture and purchase. "Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the masses..." - more of us should be demanding that DVD be kept as a staple. And if we wish to upgrade, sell it, use it as a coaster, or proudly display it on our top shelf and poo-poo the BD, 4k, and Premium 1 Click releases that have since followed. We should have that option still! Arrow and Shout! et al should care more about me and my money than the black market does. And lord knows, their DVD knock off business is STILL going strong!

Sorry for the rant, but feels good to get it out there.

I'm on it like stink on poop! So just to understand, the Amazon link is just for the commercial French release, and best to sign up with Jokers to get notified. Can't wait!

I love and have ALL of Bong Joon Ho's movies to date. He's as genius as Stanley Kubrick and David Lynch IMHO. I'm saddened that he went with Netflix to do Okja, as I don't think we'll ever see a premium release of that anywhere. BUT, so glad he "redeemed himself" at Cannes by going back to the studio system for Parasite. IF CJ has already commissioned it's release a little over a month from now, I hope PA isn't too long after with theirs! I'll gladly wait and get in line with you guys for it!  

Awesome! Really like Plain Archives packaging as well! Hope they do a phenomenal job with it. Thanks!

Really hoping KIMCHI or some other puts a nice release of this movie out. The commercial DVD/BD is set for Jan 20 2020. And with all the hype the movies been getting all ready, I would think a group buy would be imminent here. Right now the DVD/BD only has a Q&A with Bong as a extra. After The Host and Snowpiercer, I would hope there would be as much as those offered.

So I'm kinda a tadpole compared to some of you collectors here. I enjoy my rare offbeat movies I can track down on KIMCHI and such (Snowpiercer, Irreversible, Her, Ernest & Celestine to name a few) And I have them displayed in a antique credenza with a vertical glass door display shelves on the side. I've stood and arranged them all to be proudly arranged and visible, and I admire them every time I pass by. I see many items now for collectors ranging from slipcases to display stands and so on. The latest I saw was Vinegar Syndrome shelf divider cards. For me, I keep any little baggy sent with my orders and put the release on top of them in my display case. But I am intrigued by some of these extras like stands and housings and such to REALLY prominently display and protect a release. As much as I love my collection so far, their hasn't been a title yet I feel is "the holy grail" to really show off and protect. So, the question is - does these addendum's like slip covers and stands and divider cards etc. start as a novelty or a necessity for many here? Much like tattoo's, is it "I'll just get a stand and a case for this particular fave, and that's it!" And before you know it, you got 7 more stands, gold leafed display frames, and 200 protective sleeves on the side. Is there a point when one regrets all the extra's they've gotten for their collection? I always think back to The Simpson's episode where Homer gets talked into buying all these gizmos for his cars power outlet. And as he's driving away he's using and taking inventory - "Fax machine, check. GPS system, check. Easy Bake Oven, baking. Mobile DJ System, check. Smoke machine, on.... Gee, even I think this is a bit much!" LOL