No Time To Die (2021)

[ShadowWarrior]

OCTOBER 8TH, 2021 

 

 

[R1s1ngs0n]

So the long awaited Bond movie has finally hit the big screen yesterday and reviews/tweets have since been pouring in non-stop.

It seems that the majority so far agree this is a fine entry (some are even ecstaticallly proclaiming it as the best Craig outing and one of the best in the series), while quite a few declare it a bloated mess and a disappointment overall.

Craig, De Armas and the action scenes have so far received almost unanimous praise, while Malek's villain is barely mentioned (a very worrying sign for a Bond movie).

It's no secret I'm no fan of the Craig movies and I don't expect this to change after viewing this one (sometimes next week, hopefully).

But I'd be very interested in reading other members' opinions regarding Craig's final turn as cinema's most enduring secret agent, complete with ranking of the following 007 categories (on a scale of 1 to 10):

 

Plot -

Villain -

Bond Girl/s -

Action -

Music -

Sets -

Dialogue -

OVERALL SCORE - 

 

@extantsrevenge @Cornbuster @Fortis93 @Catgirl @hal56 @deckard99 @ukade2327 @Hollywood E Rock and all other Bond fans and non-fans alike, get your popcorn and vodka martini ready...

 

[CAYENNE-FAHRER]

[Fortis93]

1 hour ago, R1s1ngs0n said:

It's no secret I'm no fan of the Craig movies and I don't expect this to change after viewing this one (sometimes next week, hopefully).

 

I'll be honest with you. 

 

I didn't warm to Craig's rendition of the character until "Skyfall". 

 

Daniel Craig is an excellent actor, but I think he works better as the older, world-weary Bond seen in "Skyfall" and "Spectre" than he does as a brash, lovestruck agent who transitions to a hardened cynic after getting his heart broken in "Casino Royale". I always had a hard time buying that aspect of "Casino Royale" despite Martin Campbell's great direction (especially the action sequences). 

 

Nevertheless, I'm still looking forward to his final outing and hope it ends his tenure with a bang. 

 

Edited September 29, 2021 by Fortis93

[hal56]

Usually, I wouldnt watch a Bond movie in cinemas but since this might the be last time

before some woke imbeciles decide for a female Bond, I might make an exception....

[Hollywood E Rock]

@R1s1ngs0n Thanks for the tag, because No Time To Die is the film I’m most excited to see. Me on my way to the theaters!

 

[Catgirl]

We don't go to the cinema until Saturday, after which I will add my mustard.😁👍

 

But so far I've liked all of the Bond except the Lazenby. I liked Connery Brosnan Craig and Dalton best. Everyone was good in their own way. 

 

[deckard99]

Can someone post the time segments where Ana De Armas is on screen so I can skip right to those? 😜

[Hollywood E Rock]

34 minutes ago, Fortis93 said:

 

I'll be honest with you. 

 

I didn't warm to Craig's rendition of the character until "Skyfall". 

 

Daniel Craig is an excellent actor, but I think he works better as the more refined, world-weary Bond seen in "Skyfall" and "Spectre" than he does as an almost brash, lovestruck agent who transitions to a hardened cynic after getting his heart broken in "Casino Royale". I always had a hard time buying that aspect of "Casino Royale" despite Martin Campbell's great direction (especially the action sequences). 

 

Nevertheless, I'm still looking forward to his final outing and hope it ends his tenure with a bang. 

Well if we are being honest I’m not a veteran fan of the franchise. For a long time I had never seen any Bond movies. I remember one of my friends questioning my film fandom because at the time I hadn’t seen any. At that time Pierce Brosnan was toward the end of his run as the character. 
 

Sometime later I finally decided to watch Brosnan’s run as the character & I liked all four but they didn’t leave me wanting more. So I parted ways with the franchise until Casino Royale released, & that was the one! I liked Casino Royale so much to the point where I could feel a desire to want to experience more of the franchise.

 

So I went back & watched Dr. No to On Her Majesty’s Secret Service, Live & Let Die, & rewatched all of Brosnan’s run. I still to this day haven’t watched them all but I’m more excited about finishing the franchise then I was years ago before Craig was Bond. So Craig is my Bond because it was his first outing as the character that really sparked me to explore the franchise further.

 

[Hollywood E Rock]

8 minutes ago, deckard99 said:

Can someone post the time segments where Ana De Armas is on screen so I can skip right to those? 😜

You are an individual with a good eye for the beautiful 😂

 

 

[extantsrevenge]

I don't know yet when I will see it, but I saw that my cinema has several english showings, so it might be early next week. Sadly they allow full capacity again (only for tested, recovered or vaccinated), but I honestly don't want to sit in a full cinema. But an early showing might do the trick.

 

I will report back when I have seen it

[Hecko]

1 hour ago, hal56 said:

Usually, I wouldnt watch a Bond movie in cinemas but since this might the be last time

before some woke imbeciles decide for a female Bond, I might make an exception....

 

 

It will happen one day.

 

5 minutes ago, Hollywood E Rock said:

Well if we are being honest I’m not a veteran fan of the franchise. For a long time I had never seen any Bond movies. I remember one of my friends questioning my film fandom because at the time I hadn’t seen any. At that time Pierce Brosnan was toward the end of his run as the character. 
 

Sometime later I finally decided to watch Brosnan’s run as the character & I liked all four but they didn’t leave me wanting more. So I parted ways with the franchise until Casino Royale released, & that was the one! I liked Casino Royale so much to the point where I could feel a desire to want to experience more of the franchise.

 

So I went back & watched Dr. No to On Her Majesty’s Secret Service, Live & Let Die, & rewatched all of Brosnan’s run. I still to this day haven’t watched them all but I’m more excited about finishing the franchise then I was years ago before Craig was Bond. So Craig is my Bond because it was his first outing as the character that really sparked me to explore the franchise further.

 

 

I need to watch them all only have seen couple of the bond films. I will sit down one day and try to watch them all not in one go of course but it has always been on my to do list. I dont really have a preference for a bond actor but maybe i will after have seen them all but seeing as craig shares my name only one direction i am leaning lol. I know its not his first name. Just hope i can avoid spoilers always some idiot out there that loves to be that guy.

[Fortis93]

8 minutes ago, Hollywood E Rock said:

Well if we are being honest I’m not a veteran fan of the franchise. For a long time I had never seen any Bond movies. I remember one of my friends questioning my film fandom because at the time I hadn’t seen any. At that time Pierce Brosnan was toward the end of his run as the character. 
 

Sometime later I finally decided to watch Brosnan’s run as the character & I liked all four but they didn’t leave me wanting more. So I parted ways with the franchise until Casino Royale released, & that was the one! I liked Casino Royale so much to the point where I could feel a desire to want to experience more of the franchise.

 

So I went back & watched Dr. No to On Her Majesty’s Secret Service, Live & Let Die, & rewatched all of Brosnan’s run. I still to this day haven’t watched them all but I’m more excited about finishing the franchise then I was years ago before Craig was Bond. So Craig is my Bond because it was his first outing as the character that really sparked me to explore the franchise further.

 

 

Believe me, I'm the first person to tell you there's something I'm missing or not getting when it comes to "Casino Royale" given how much of a beloved entry it is in the series.

 

I mainly grew up on Connery and Moore when they were marathoning all the Bond films on television in the lead up to "Die Another Day" around this time back in 2002.

 

I would've been about 8 or 9, so that's the image that was sort of engrained into my mind.

 

And I think that's part of the appeal of the series, everyone will have their own entry point into the series, their own favourite Bond. It's probably one of the main reasons the series has lasted almost six decades. It sustains itself on reinterpretation. 

 

At the end of the day though, there's not one Bond film I actively dislike. I actually like all of them and enjoy them to varying degrees.

 

I can find something I really enjoy in some of the lesser-viewed entries such as "A View To A Kill" and "The World Is Not Enough".

[hal56]

vor 37 Minuten schrieb Hecko:

 

 

It will happen one day.

 

 

 

Looking forward to it. Will be watching it as a double feature with this movie pearl, that showed us how well this idea can work..😁

 

[R1s1ngs0n]

In almost 60 years of cinematic Bond existence, countless lists have been compiled by Bond ‘experts’, fans and non-fans, ranking the films in the beloved franchise.

At present day, it is generally the consensus that the holy trinity of Bond movies consists of From Russia With Love, On Her Majesty’s Secret Service and Casino Royale… incidentally, the movies which are closest to the source material and have the greatest emphasis on character development.

These are usually followed by Dr. No, Goldfinger, The Spy Who Loved Me, The Living Daylights, Goldeneye and Skyfall.

My holy trinity consists of the aforementioned FRWL, OHMSS and Goldfinger (my personal favorite, although I do acknowledge the other two are the better movies).

 

I have always found it amusing that many people are calling Casino Royale (or any Bond movie for that matter… except maybe one) a masterpiece, although I do understand why they love that movie so much.

The Bond movies, like Fleming’s novels, were primarily conceived to provide stylish entertainment and escapism, only very rarely allowing for any emotional gravitas to surface.

Until CR arrived in 2006 and proved a game changer (for better and for worse) no one has ever thought labeling a Bond movie a masterpiece.

So what makes CR so special? It is really that good?

In my humble opinion it is a very well made action thriller but not a particularly great Bond movie. 

The fact that it was such a radical departure from the Brosnan era (especially after the abysmal Die Another Day, which is generally seen as the worst ever Bond movie), both in terms of tone and lead actor, led IMO to massive hyperbole, not unlike what happened with Nolan’s Batman trilogy.
I remember leaving the theater after seeing CR for the first time and telling my wife that as much as the Brosnan era stank, at least I knew I was watching a Bond film, whereas with Craig I got the impression I got served a pale imitation of Jason Bourne. She agreed with me.

 

A masterpiece? No way.

The only Bond movie where that word would not seem out of place is OHMSS, a movie where all artistic talents involved fired on all cylinders to create a unique entry that was not only faithful to Fleming’s novel but was also the expression of its director’s uncompromising vision.

The perfect blend of action, drama and humour (can’t find the latter in any of Craig’s outings).

[Fortis93]

32 minutes ago, R1s1ngs0n said:

My holy trinity consists of the aforementioned FRWL, OHMSS and Goldfinger (my personal favorite, although I do acknowledge the other two are the better movies).

 

Mine's almost identical. 😄

 

From Russia With Love, Goldfinger and Skyfall.

[ShadowWarrior]

[SilentasKnight]

I have only seen Casino Royale and Skyfall so far. I am going to try and catch up on all the Craig Bonds before I see No Time to Die When it comes out. 

 

I liked Skyfall the best so far. Adele's song and that Scottish manor at the end did it for me. 

 

I didn't even notice Daniel Craig until I watched Knives Out. That movie is Phenomenal and it really opened my eyes as to how good of an actor Craig really is. 

[Grendel]

Hi @SilentasKnight;  🙂

If I may be so forward as to make suggestion, 2 films that Daniel Craig has starred in that I think are very much worth viewing, include;

- The Layer Cake; (great Brit crime drama), and

- Logan Lucky; (hilarious American crime spoof with Channing Tatum and Adam Driver)

Edited September 29, 2021 by Grendel

[ShadowWarrior]

4 minutes ago, Grendel said:

Hi @SilentasKnight;  🙂

If I may be so forward as to make suggestion, 2 films that Daniel Craig has starred in that I think are very much worth viewing, include;

- The Layer Cake; (great Brit crime drama), and

- Logan Lucky; (hilarious American crime spoof with Channing Tatum and Adam Driver)

I LOVE Logan Lucky for some reason, still debating on getting the Plain Archive premium 

[Grendel]

^^ I have it (FS-B), you won't be disappointed should you elect to purchase. 😀

Edited September 29, 2021 by Grendel

[deckard99]

8 hours ago, R1s1ngs0n said:

In almost 60 years of cinematic Bond existence, countless lists have been compiled by Bond ‘experts’, fans and non-fans, ranking the films in the beloved franchise.

At present day, it is generally the consensus that the holy trinity of Bond movies consists of From Russia With Love, On Her Majesty’s Secret Service and Casino Royale… incidentally, the movies which are closest to the source material and have the greatest emphasis on character development.

These are usually followed by Dr. No, Goldfinger, The Spy Who Loved Me, The Living Daylights, Goldeneye and Skyfall.

My holy trinity consists of the aforementioned FRWL, OHMSS and Goldfinger (my personal favorite, although I do acknowledge the other two are the better movies).

 

I have always found it amusing that many people are calling Casino Royale (or any Bond movie for that matter… except maybe one) a masterpiece, although I do understand why they love that movie so much.

The Bond movies, like Fleming’s novels, were primarily conceived to provide stylish entertainment and escapism, only very rarely allowing for any emotional gravitas to surface.

Until CR arrived in 2006 and proved a game changer (for better and for worse) no one has ever thought labeling a Bond movie a masterpiece.

So what makes CR so special? It is really that good?

In my humble opinion it is a very well made action thriller but not a particularly great Bond movie. 

The fact that it was such a radical departure from the Brosnan era (especially after the abysmal Die Another Day, which is generally seen as the worst ever Bond movie), both in terms of tone and lead actor, led IMO to massive hyperbole, not unlike what happened with Nolan’s Batman trilogy.
I remember leaving the theater after seeing CR for the first time and telling my wife that as much as the Brosnan era stank, at least I knew I was watching a Bond film, whereas with Craig I got the impression I got served a pale imitation of Jason Bourne. She agreed with me.

 

A masterpiece? No way.

The only Bond movie where that word would not seem out of place is OHMSS, a movie where all artistic talents involved fired on all cylinders to create a unique entry that was not only faithful to Fleming’s novel but was also the expression of its director’s uncompromising vision.

The perfect blend of action, drama and humour (can’t find the latter in any of Craig’s outings).

 

 

My order is the exact same, except I put Moonraker slightly higher than all the rest.

[R1s1ngs0n]

1 minute ago, deckard99 said:

 

 

My order is the exact same, except I put Moonraker slightly higher than all the rest.

Moonraker is a guilty pleasure. An extremely silly movie with one of the worst Bond girls but it does feature some of the most gorgeous cinematography, locations and sets in the whole franchise. Not to mention the PTS is my favorite in the series... that freefall stunt is still as jaw dropping as it was 42 years ago.

[Fortis93]

1 hour ago, R1s1ngs0n said:

Moonraker is a guilty pleasure. An extremely silly movie with one of the worst Bond girls but it does feature some of the most gorgeous cinematography, locations and sets in the whole franchise. Not to mention the PTS is my favorite in the series... that freefall stunt is still as jaw dropping as it was 42 years ago.

 

Yep, great action sequences in that movie, particularly the boat and gondola chases. I've always had fun with it.

 

Moore's finest hours are in The Spy Who Loved Me and For Your Eyes Only.

 

Edited September 30, 2021 by Fortis93

[deckard99]

1 hour ago, R1s1ngs0n said:

Moonraker is a guilty pleasure. An extremely silly movie with one of the worst Bond girls but it does feature some of the most gorgeous cinematography, locations and sets in the whole franchise. Not to mention the PTS is my favorite in the series... that freefall stunt is still as jaw dropping as it was 42 years ago.

 

17 minutes ago, Fortis93 said:

 

Yep, great action sequences in that movie, particularly the boat and gondola chases. I've always had fun with it.

 

Moore's finest hours are in The Spy Who Loved Me and For Your Eyes Only.

 

 

I was being semi-serious, but yes I have fond memories of Moonraker and was much impressed the first time I saw it, despite it being silly. So I really do have a soft spot for it.